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I am starting a comapny(Security/lHouse keeping/Labour contract) First time,i registered a company in labour Dept. then i need to register in ESI/PF also before getting any contract, i asked some one they told us it's 30000.00 to 40000.00 will be the charges.
How many employess is required to do ESI/PF
Please help me in this & waiting for replay from all.
Thnaks & Regards
Ravi
23rd February 2009 From India ,
:lol:for labour contractor 20 or more than 20 employee’s required condition is they are working in more than one company for pf & esic registration with work/ purchase order
23rd February 2009 From India , Pune
Dear Mr. Ravi,
minimum employee required is 20 nos. less than that it is not a mandatory. But if you wish to give the benefit to your employees, you can. the expenses for registering would be around Rs.10,000 - 15,000/- only.
23rd February 2009 From India , Madras
There shuld be at least 20 employees for ESI coverage and for provident fund any numbers are ok.and as for as contract labour license is concerned you shuld deploy 20 workers at one work station. The registration fee is based on the locality where in your business is placed,based on your locality the total expances should be caliculated.Pls contact for Karnataka registration at below numbers.
Thank You
Regards
prasanna
9341210981
08041749137

23rd February 2009 From India , Kochi
Kindly let me know the applicability of ESI act. Is is area wise applicable or only in corporation area only this act is applicable.
24th February 2009 From India , Mumbai
:wink: ESIC act applicable only corporation area & other areas which are covered under special laws. for other area’s you have to contact to regional office.
25th February 2009 From India , Pune
Dear Mr. Kumarravi,
As a labour contractor doing security and housekeeping the rules are applied sliglhty differently from what my friends have stated in reply. You would be working as a contractor to your clients and so if your client is covered under ESI and EPF you would also be liable to pay ESI & EPF for your employees so deputed to that client. The figiures of 20 employees minimum required is for obtaining your own independant code numbers under ESI & EPF. But then for you to obtain independant numbers you have several other requirements to fulfill. like for example you should have more than one contract, You should have more than 20 employees, You should be ready to deposit in advance contributions for ESI, and so on. Kindly note that these requirements change from region to region ( that is from one city to another) based on the authorities there.
So a call has to be taken by you after visiting the office and getting the gyan of the local practices so that you can suit it and achieve your needs.
regards
25th February 2009 From India , Bangalore
Dear Mr. Ravi, Hi.. I am looking after for ESI & P.f related maters for a MNC.pleace contact me for any help. i wanna work with you as a employee. Kamesh 09717194199
26th February 2009 From India , Hyderabad
Dear Ravi,
Congratulations on starting ur own business of Security/HK.
Regarding Pf u have to go to IT deptt. AND u will get the forms etc which have to be fullfilled and submitted. You will get the PF no. within 7 days.
Next you have to look for the ESI agent who will get your work done. You have to give him ID and address proof. No. of employees( 20 or more with their father and mother's name,address proof, nature of work where they are working and salary), 2 work orders, then you have to provide regn. of shop and estb., labour act, Pan Card of the company etc. The money envolved may vary from 15000 - 20000.
Yes you will also have to deposit the sum @6.5% (employees and company's share) approx. of the gross salary of six months. This is the latest update. Happy business.
Pankaj Verma
email
26th February 2009 From India , Delhi
Mr. Ravi ,
For ESI & EPF There should be more than 20 employees working with you . There is no surcharges to apply for same as cover under by yourself .If you hire any person to provide the same code they will charge as they want.
26th February 2009 From India , Vijayawada
Any query related to labour laws pls contact me on my cell no
9324 539 537
regards
vicky pathak
normally for PF they charge Rs. 12000 and ESI rs. 8000 and u will get the nos within 7 days. for more details contact on 9324 539 537
regrds
vicky pathak
26th February 2009 From India , Mumbai
i have good knowledge of income tax, sales tax, services tax, provident fund, esi & other various taxes if your have requirment in this taxtation please contact me my mail id is : , (M) 9891902564.
Thanks,
27th February 2009 From India , Gurgaon
Sri Ravi,
Pl visit the concerneced government authorities offices in person by your self , discuss with the atuthority, and follow the instructions of them.
I believe that you are requred to deposit some Advance amount with the siad authority against your next comming liability of PF & EPS payable . the said depost will be adjust against your PF & ESIC payable contirbution liability. Means you shuold not loose a single rupee what ever you deposit with the Pf & ESIC Authority.
Regards,
Upadhyay
28th February 2009 From India , New Delhi
Dear Ravi
U need not pay Rs. 30k to 40k as registration of PF & ESI is very simple, just go the site & see the rquirements deocements for registration including the regisration fees whcih u need to pay it by DD. AFter completion of the reuireed doc. just Post the docs to the Commissioner directly with Registerd AD Post. I hv done the same & hv rece the registration no within 15days, need not to pay any one 30k or 40k
regards
Prashant
2nd March 2009 From India , Pune
Hi Dear,

AS far as I know Esic has based on the salary paid. If the salary is paid upto certain limit then it is applicable. However, there are other thing that has to be noted that if ESIC is not applicable then workmen compensation Act is applicable. However, both the said act are mutually exclusive. i.e. either of the act is appilcable at any point of time the an employee. Please further note that the applicability is to employee and not to the Co. Both the act may be applicable to the Company.

Further, regarding P. F. its applicable since the first employee the Company employees. The only way to eliminate P.F. & E.S.I.C is to have the contract labour. In that case its would be liability of the contractor and not the Company. However, the Company become principal employer and would be laible for P. F. and E.S.I.C. If contractor doesnt pay. However, in the above case registration under P.f. & E.S.I.C. would not be required. I am a C.A. and have carried out a Complaince Audit of a "BIG" construction Co. The above views are based on the personal experiance.

Vikas Goel

4th March 2009 From India , Mumbai
Hi Ravi,
I am also interested in starting a manpower supply agency.
I need your consultation.
Will you please give me your email id.
My email id:

Hi Ravi,
I am also interested in starting a manpower supply agency.
I need your consultation.
Will you please give me your email id.
My email id:

4th March 2009 From United States , Newport Beach
Hello Ravi...which city are u based in....i have started the same business....maybe we could inter realate some best practices...lemme know...and my number is 9901991709..
5th March 2009 From India , Bangalore
Dear Friends
At last I launched our new company called Sunaina Services, it provides the services like House Keeping, Labours & Security
contract to all type of Companies.
Please help us in this to serve better service & give us your valuable suggestions, guidance and Contacts to provide service
and to improve the company.
I hope all you will help us.
If any one required our services please contact to the below address.
Thanking you
Sunaina Services
#385,1st Floor, 11th Main , 3rd Stage
Manjunathanagar, Rajajinagar
Bangalore-560010.
Phone:
Office:
Land line: +91 80-3201 0892
Mobile:
Suresh : +91 90087 80097
Ravi : +91 99727 88711
Email:
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13th March 2009 From India ,
Dear Ravi,
You will be covered under the provisions of the ESI, if you are having the manpower of minimum 20 employees and they should be drawn below Rs.10,000=00. For which you have to submit your details in Form-01 to the concerned Regional Office with necessay documentary evidence. You can download the required forms from ESIC, in case you have any further queries don't hesitate to reply or send to my mail id: THE BEST FOR UR FUTURE ENDEAVOUR AND PRAY THE GOD TO GIVE SUCCESS TO U IN THESE RECESSION PERIOD........SYAM:smile:
13th March 2009 From India , Hyderabad
hey hi.
shocked i am, this 30,000/- to 40,000/- is an illegal requirement and under the table. 20 or more employees + a form given in teh end of the ESI PF acts would help you. it does not need to have so much of money paid so long as u r maintaining your record honestly. Peple who are in PF business will make u belive anything. :( I am a labour advisor myself with 15 years of exp. revert for any clarification as a friend. regards and all the best.
15th March 2009 From India , Delhi
Hi,

for labour contractor 20 or more than 20 employee's required condition is that pf & esic registration with work/ purchase order. minimum employee required is 20 nos. less than that it is not a mandatory.
As a labour contractor doing security and housekeeping the rules are applied differently You would be working as a contractor to your clients and so if your client is covered under ESI and PF you would also be liable to pay ESI & PF for your employees so deputed to that client. The figures of 20 employees minimum required is for obtaining your own independent code numbers under ESI & PF. But then for you to obtain independent numbers you have several other requirements to fulfill. like for example you should have more than one contract, You should have more than 20 employees, You should be ready to deposit in advance contributions for 6 month for ESI, and so on. Kindly note that these requirements change from region to region ( that is from one city to another) based on the authorities there.
So a call has to be taken by you after visiting the office and getting the gyan of the local practices so that you can suit it and achieve your needs.

therefor
your total expense as per delhi minimum wage in esic Rs. 30685.20 + some administration charge, and PF around Rs. 10000.00, only

regards

parvez

16th March 2009 From India , Delhi
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